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Salesman Sample Stoves,  Toy-Size Children's Stoves  Stove Patent Models & Small Antique Laundry Stoves

We Can Help You Sell Your Toy or Salesman Sample Size Small Stoves and Other Related Antiques!!

We are antique dealers and deal in small child size, miniature or sample size antique stoves. 

Small antique stoves are one of the most widely misunderstood of all collectibles available in the antique marketplace today.  Even the experts often times cannot agree on what constitutes a salesman sample, or a simple toy.  I have heard some even argue that salesman sample stoves do not exist.  They do.  Some will call a legitimately old small stove a salesman sample, while others call it a toy, and still others call that same stove a display model or display piece that would sit in the store window.  And all of this from people that know and understand antiques. 

Many less knowledgeable sellers call relatively new toy stoves antiques and salesman samples, innocently or otherwise. 

I am no expert, but I will try and not confuse the issue and at the same time describe the types and styles of small vintage stoves that are of interest to us and those that are not. 

  Please Note:  We do not buy, sell or deal in full size gas, electric or wood fired stoves!!!  If you want me to sell yours and are willing to ship it to me at your cost I will try and sell it for you. 

Salesman Sample & Toy Stoves

We are seeking  genuine salesman samples of stoves, quality early toy stoves, or vintage display models of  early wood burning or gas fired cookstoves and early kitchen ranges.  Pictured on the left is the #503 Charter Oak.  It was made by a stove company, and I suppose it could be called a salesman sample, but we consider them to be toys, or store displays.  My understanding is that they were available for sale to those who bought a full size stove, and I have been told this was the case with other stove manufacturers as well. It weighs in at 70 some pounds, measures over 24" across and I doubt anybody's grandpa or distant relative was carting one around door to door peddling them across the countryside.  The Charter Oak came in several sizes and different finishes with this being the largest.  In general they sell for anywhere from under a thousand to I have seen people asking 3 or 4 thousand for examples.  I would bet they are slow movers at the upper end of that range. 

We are also interested  in gas or electric sample stoves or ranges  if they are in their original cases that the salesman would have carried them in while attempting to convince the leery early housewife of the marvels of gas or electricity over that hot and labor intensive wood fired beast over in the corner.  

Oftentimes you see small electric toy kitchen ranges offered as salesman samples.  These small stoves are often operable and many are enameled, nicely made, but most of these are toys and not salesman samples.  They are nice, and I am interested in buying these at toy prices, but not as over-inflated high priced salesman samples.  I have seen these offered for sale for several thousand dollars and seen other still sitting on the shelf for a couple of hundred.  They sell for even less when offered on eBay, but that does not stop the offers I receive to pay $1000 or more for something I can buy for $100 or so. 

I especially like the models of early cook stoves that have enamel or graniteware exteriostove_baby.jpg (26393 bytes)rs, and the larger and well detailed stoves such as The Majestic or the US that I have pictured in the top corner of this page.  Just to the right is another interesting stove, an enameled Baby.  This is a relatively common toy stove in plain cast iron or nickel finish and is a toy.  This same design stove can be found with several different names on the door, but is rarely found enameled as this one is. 

Condition is critical to the value of these stoves, and those that are broken up or missing pieces are not worth what the one you saw on the Roadshow appraise at, or what you saw one bring on some other TV antique show.  Speaking of current values, there is a book out by a fellow named Ford that has some great examples pictured, and is a price guide, but when those values are compared to what stoves are typically selling for today on eBay there are enormous disparities.  Beware and do research!!

frstove2.jpg (16800 bytes) The small cast iron stove on the left is French.  It is nicely done, very detailed and quite ornate.  This stove even has an enamel lined water tank on the far  right.  I was once told that these stoves were for actual use in apartments in France.  I am not sure if that is true and find it hard to imagine as it measures just 12" or so high and only 20" across, but this piece does have a nice look nonetheless.

I do like some of the early cast iron toy stoves made by Stevens, Kenton,stove_d1.jpg (23144 bytes) Hubley and others, like the Baby, Imperial, Buck's, Charter Oak, and more,  but I like to pay toy prices for toys and not salesman sample prices for what are not.  On the right is an example of a stove that is very similar to its larger counterpart.  It is marked Detroit Stove Works.  I believe that it too is just a model or toy and not a true salesman sample.    

pearl_stove6.jpg (26544 bytes)We also buy small laundry stoves and /or different style sad iron heaters that went along with stoves to heat pressing irons with.  I am also looking to buy stove pipe trivets or warmers like the one pictured on the right above the laundry stove pictured.  In each of these categories there are many different varieties available, and we are interested in all legitimate and good condition pieces for inclusion to our sale pages on our sister site www.patented-antiques.com where we have numerous antiques from a host of categories available for sale. 

 If you have any similar small antique stoves like those pictured here that are for sale,  please contact us at LCM@AntiqBuyer.com, and provide us with as many details as possible, including the asking price.

Important

What I do not want, and have no further information about are NEW stoves marked Crescent, Favorite, or Spark.  These newer stoves have flooded the market over the years and are always offered up as the real thing on the Internet and in the group "antique" shops all over the country. 

This Small "Favorite" Cast Iron Stove is a Reproduction:  

In the antique malls and shops all across the country these days well over 90% of what you see in the way of small stove1.jpg (15211 bytes)stoves are new or reproductions, and yet they are always being offered as salesman samples or vintage antiques by the dealers who are filling their booths with this trash. 

The same is true of the majority of the offerings on the Internet at the various auctions or other individual websites.   Most notably and frequently seen are the many different versions of Crescent, a couple different versions of the Favorite, and the pot-bellied Spark. 

On the left I have pictured a newer Favorite, and even though this particular stove is at least 30 years old and has a place in the decorator's scheme, it and others like it are of no interest to us.  The latest version of this Favorite Stove (not shown) must be from the Far East and the molds done off of one of these earlier remakes, as the newest version is so rough and poorly cast that you can hardly read the name in the front. They are also put together with Phillips head screws and the stove lids are so poorly done that no question should remain as to their authenticity.  

I have seen numerous attempts to make these new stoves appear to be legit by changing screws or having the doors nickeled or replacing the top lids, but they still look horrible and I am amazed at times at the prices that seemingly knowledgeable people have on them.  Shame!!  On the right is an original Dolly's Favorite that these re-pops are fashioned after.  Hopefully you can see the difference in the blow-up pic. 

Please contact me if you have any interesting or unusual small stoves that are for sale, at  LCM@AntiqBuyer.com with details and your asking price as we are always interested in nice examples. 

 To see examples of antiques  including some small stoves that I currently have for sale please go to our sister site at www.patented-antiques.com and visit the numerous sale pages you will find there.   

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